View Full Version : CDH Awareness Ribbon VOTE
Dawn Torrence Ireland
10-26-2007, 01:33 PM
Alright, trying out this poll software for the first time, so bear with me! Here are 9 samples from the ideas posted - if I forgot any, please let me know. They are *very* rough drafts. Now, let's remember that we want these on magnets and to be able to wear - which means we have to find ribbon like this somewhere or make it somehow.
http://www.cherubs-cdh.org/images/graphics/voteribbons.png
karahess
10-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Note: I would put #6 on my car or fridge as the magnet. I would wear #7 on my clothing.
DarleneSilverman
10-26-2007, 01:56 PM
I like No. 5 the best. Although I suggested the the black and white checked that you have for No. 9, I don't like it cause it looks too gothic-y.
Michelle Long
10-26-2007, 02:27 PM
My vote is for #5.
Barbara and KevinWagner
10-26-2007, 03:28 PM
I love number 5 Dawn! I Like #8 and those but really love "our" cherub instead!
Corin Nava
10-26-2007, 03:30 PM
Wouldn't 1-5 be along the lines of a magnet and 6-9 something we would wear. If we picked one color design (aka blue w/clouds for example) wouldn't it be the same to have 3 for the car and 7 to wear? I hope I am making sense.
Tammy Pettus-Kopacz
10-26-2007, 04:14 PM
I don't think the poll at the top is working. It doesn't do anything after hitting the submit button or the view results button.
I have a boy so I'm partial to #6. But I also like #5 and #8.
Just a suggestion, have you considered no cherub graphic, Just the rainbow CHERUBS instead.
StephanieOlivarez
10-26-2007, 05:47 PM
I like #5. It represents both girls and boys. It would also look great on an ash gray shirt.
Stephanie (Shelby's Mom LCDH 7-10-06)
Barbara and KevinWagner
10-26-2007, 06:12 PM
What a great idea Stephanie........hmmm.....we could use one on the cafepress shirts as well!
KimberlySwitzer
10-26-2007, 08:33 PM
If we are wanting to wear them as well, do you mean on clothes from cafepress, or like a ribbon? How would you get pink, blue and yellow like in #5 all into a cloth ribbon?? Thats what confused me but I think its great for a car magnet or a cafepress item!!!
Dawn Torrence Ireland
10-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Let's get these votes in! :)
Ok, right now, we're voting on the car magnets - but let's keep the wearing ribbons in mind as we would want them to match if possible.
As far as the different colored cloud ribbon - I guess we could wear a color dependent on whether we have a boy or girl? I don't know.
I do know we need help finding cloud ribbon! If you have some time, please help to search on the internet.
Tammy Pettus-Kopacz
10-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Hi all,
I was thinking about the ribbons today. I don't mean to offend anyone, but I have a question. What's the meaning behind the clouds? Why clouds? Is it because they represent heaven? I'm just trying to be clear.
Also, I've been looking for a couple of days now at awareness ribbons on the net. I don't see any gingham (checked) ribbons like #9. I think #9 would be cute in a baby blue, yellow or pink. PLUS.. It's and easy ribbon to get.
What do you guys think?
[left:3619561c32]http://www.favorsandflowers.com/images/gingham-wedding-ribbons.jpg[/left:3619561c32]
Dawn Torrence Ireland
10-28-2007, 07:24 PM
Clouds because of cherubs, because they used to be all over our old site, and it would emphasize the fact that half of the cherubs don't survive.
I do like the gingham too though.
I'm having a horrible time fining cloud ribbon. I wonder if we can order it specially made somewhere.
Tammy Pettus-Kopacz
10-28-2007, 07:39 PM
Look at the wedding ribbon sites. They do custom made ribbons.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
10-28-2007, 08:56 PM
They do? That's pretty neat, I'll have to see what they can do.
karahess
10-29-2007, 06:04 AM
I've been viewing the samples on my laptop. Last night I used my other computer and the graphics looked totally different. I thought you changed the looks of them. Now, I'm back on my laptop and its back to the dul, faded looking colors. From my laptop view, you can't tell at all that there is yellow in the ribbon samples. Weird.
JeanneNava
10-29-2007, 06:57 AM
I like no. 5 because it represents both boys & girls. I also like the cloud ribbon but realize that it might be hard to find. I'll do some searching too. (I tried to vote but it doesn't seem to be working)
Dawn Torrence Ireland
10-29-2007, 06:58 PM
Anyone else having trouble voting? I just extended it by 5 days, maybe that will fix it. Please try again Janne
JeanneNava
10-30-2007, 05:24 AM
I still can't vote. All I see is the results. The little dots to click on are gone.
Jeanne
JessQuinn
10-30-2007, 11:44 AM
I like #3 and #4.
NicoleRaucher
10-30-2007, 12:53 PM
I like number 5 as well. I think it represents girls and boys. I also prefer the CDH Cherub to the sort of the generic angel. I think I would wear this as a pin on my handbag, baby diaperbag or bookbag.
karahess
10-30-2007, 12:59 PM
Hey Nicole! Great to see you on here!
Sheri Smith
10-30-2007, 01:07 PM
I can't see any ribbon samples or view results. Am I supposed to look at samples somewhere else??
NicoleRaucher
10-30-2007, 01:10 PM
Thanks Kara -- I am enjoying being part of the site although I am not at all a computer whiz and the first time I read a blog was when you told me how to get there. :) I guess I am getting better slowly but surely.
Bethany Gillham
10-30-2007, 01:54 PM
I'm probably a little late, but I love number 1!
Sheri Smith
10-30-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm probably too late as well but I like #2. I like the more formal cherub b/c it's more...I dunno...serious?
I didn't read all the posts in the thread but liked Tammy's idea of a gingham print as well.
I could swear I've seen cloud ribbon somewhere....I'll keep my eyes open.
Bobbi Steiner
10-30-2007, 11:12 PM
I like Tammy's idea of the gingham ribbons. I personally love ginham. I like design #1 for the magnets.
Michelle Long
10-31-2007, 09:01 AM
I like pink on one side and blue on the other but the yellow in the middle may be harder to find in a ribbon. I think there should be one ribbon with both genders (pink and blue). I think the clouds are great. Quite often I look to the clouds for peace in losing my Abigail. I think the wording is great with the baby cherub. How do you feel about adding one to the poll that is like #5 with out the yellow?
Michelle
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-01-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok everyone if you have trouble voting - I don't know why some are and some aren't.... those of you that are, what browsers are you using? If you couldn't vote then you can post your vote here or e-mail me if you want it to be anonymous.
I'm sending that company our winning ribbon design on Tuesday and we should be able to purchase the magnets by Friday. The ribbons will take a bit longer to figure out!
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-04-2007, 12:46 PM
Someone just alerted me yesterday - did you all know that the March of Dimes ribbons were pink and blue? Do you think ours with the yellow and the clouds too will be different enough? I don't want to infringe on another group's colors.
StephanieOlivarez
11-04-2007, 12:58 PM
I feel that if you are referring to #5 and it being all yellow with the clouds-that rocks!! I am thinking of all the magnets I see and I can't remember seeing just yellow! If the yellow was bright enough-WOW-that would stand out and make people look and wonder!
Yellow is such a beautiful color-it also can represent boys and girls.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-04-2007, 01:03 PM
I meant #5 sorry. Traveling and typing so my brain is having trouble keeping up. :)
StephanieOlivarez
11-04-2007, 01:18 PM
I have a fun idea-when you get these magnets ordered-what do you think about doing a little game with family and friends-put the magnet on a friends car-then they pass it on-everyne who gets the magnet gives $5.00 towards Cherubs-let all friends and family do it-then send the money in!!!!
Just an idea-kinda like tag your it!!!See who you can get next!
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-04-2007, 01:47 PM
That could be fun, Stephanie!
KimberlySwitzer
11-04-2007, 02:08 PM
I think if we have the yellow and clouds it would be alright, the clouds make it original even if we didnt have the yellow in there as well. There are so many colors to use, someone is bound to have the same I dont think I have ever seen a ribbon with clouds on it so it will stand out from the rest of the pink and blue ribbons....
DarleneSilverman
11-04-2007, 03:17 PM
I agree with Kimberly above. There is always going to be another group with the same colors, but the clouds set it apart. How about if we just did a yellow ribbon with clouds and not the blue and pink.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-04-2007, 03:50 PM
I think it might be hard to see the clouds on just a yellow background. I like the idea of the blue and pink because this is a disease that affects babies and those colors reflect that. As long as everyone is ok with the colors and you all think the clouds and the yellow middle part will make us different from MoD, I'm all for #5.
LiseDill
11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
I love#5.how much are they and when can we buy them??
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-06-2007, 03:09 AM
Ok, I just sent the #5 to the company! I'll post as soon as he let's me know when we can order them.
Thank you everyone!!! :)
Now, we still need to find ribbon!!! :)
Sheri Smith
11-09-2007, 01:21 AM
Dawn,
Any new news/ideas on the ribbon since it's so similar to March of Dimes?
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-09-2007, 10:10 AM
Well, everyone voted on #5 so that's the one I sent to the company. Magnets should be ready next week! :) I think with the clouds and yellow on there too we should be ok. It is different from everyone else, just 2 out 3 colors are the same as MoD, but the clouds make it more different I think. I hope.
StephanieOlivarez
11-09-2007, 10:50 AM
The clouds will make it different. It will be perfect!!!!!!
CarrieKime
11-09-2007, 01:44 PM
I like #5 as well.
KimberlySwitzer
11-16-2007, 08:37 PM
When are we able to order them...and from where?
I cant wait to get mine :D
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-16-2007, 09:15 PM
I'm hoping next week. They sent me a proof a few days ago but the cherub was fuzzy so I sent it back and asked them to re-do it.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-18-2007, 11:34 AM
Still waiting for the car magnets but the new CDH ribbon logo is now on our cafepress.com store on over 50 items. Hats, shirts, tote bags, buttons, signs, and much more.
http://www.cafepress.com/cherubs/4069314
We're still working on other sections of the store (the logo characters) so please check back often.
StephanieOlivarez
11-18-2007, 03:39 PM
LOVE the new items with the new logo!!
Everything looks fantastic.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-28-2007, 04:54 PM
Ribbon Car Magnets are ready!!! YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!
Regular Size (8" x 4") ribbon magnet: http://www.supportourribbons.com/m/160153
1 for $7.99 each
10 for $5.99 each
50 for $4.26 each
125 for $3.98 each
500 for $3.30 each
Mega Size (16" x 8") ribbon magnet:
http://www.supportourribbons.com/m/160166
1 for $24.99 each
10 for $18.99 each
50 for $16.99 each
125 for $16.99 each
500 for $16.99 each
CHERUBS doesn't make a dime off of these, these are directly from the manufacturer. Hopefully in the near future we'll buy them in bulk and sell them to you all directly at a lower price each and so that we can use the profit for more awareness or informational activity.
karahess
11-28-2007, 05:00 PM
I just ordered mine! Thanks, Dawn, for working ever so hard on this project! Great job!
StephanieOlivarez
11-28-2007, 06:18 PM
I just ordered mine to and I even got the mega one. I'm going to use it at the ATV ride for CHERUBS and then put it on my fridge- so everyone that comes in the house will ask about it!!!!
Dawn-they look AWESOME!!!!!!
Dawn Torrence Ireland
11-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I expect to see a lot of cars at the Angel Ball with this magnet on the back of them! LOL
Corin Nava
11-28-2007, 07:26 PM
The magnet looks great! I can't wait to order mine :)
Kristin Morrow
12-12-2007, 12:36 AM
I ordered the car magnets with the new ribbon logo a couple of weeks ago...does anyone know how long it takes to get them? has anyone else ordered them? received them yet? just curious...I really look forward to having them. I even ordered some for my family for their Christmas presents!!
karahess
12-12-2007, 07:06 AM
I ordered mine on November 28 and received it December 10. Looks GREAT! I do recall their site saying that it could take up to 4 weeks to receive.
StephanieOlivarez
12-12-2007, 08:38 PM
I ordered mine and got them in a week and a half.
They do look fantastic!!!!!!!!!
I even ordered a Mega ribbon- it looks great too!!!!!!!!!I plan on using that at the ATV ride for CHERUBS!!!!!
LiseDill
12-12-2007, 09:19 PM
Hey, I wanted one! Do any of you know the link to it??I tried finding it but couldn't
karahess
12-13-2007, 07:08 AM
Ribbon Car Magnets are ready!!! YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!
Regular Size (8" x 4") ribbon magnet: http://www.supportourribbons.com/m/160153
1 for $7.99 each
10 for $5.99 each
50 for $4.26 each
125 for $3.98 each
500 for $3.30 each
Mega Size (16" x 8") ribbon magnet:
http://www.supportourribbons.com/m/160166
1 for $24.99 each
10 for $18.99 each
50 for $16.99 each
125 for $16.99 each
500 for $16.99 each
LiseDill
12-13-2007, 08:48 AM
Thanks
Kristin Morrow
12-27-2007, 11:09 PM
I got my car magnets yesterday! YEAH!! I've already got them on our cars. I'm very excited to spread the word here in AZ!! can't wait to get them sent out to the grandparents, so they can show their support too. Thanks for having them made!!
Kristin Morrow
12-27-2007, 11:12 PM
I got my car magnets yesterday! YEAH!! I've already got them on our cars. I'm very excited to spread the word here in AZ!! can't wait to get them sent out to the grandparents, so they can show their support too. Thanks for having them made!!
karahess
12-28-2007, 02:19 PM
It's so funny - I'll be driving down the road and stop behind someone with a ribbon magnet on their car. I'll start to think, huh, wonder that one is for. I look closer to find out. Now I have one on my own car and think about all the people squinting their eyes to read my bumper. Just kind of makes me giggle.
StephanieOlivarez
12-28-2007, 02:40 PM
I do the same thing.
I want to go to the shopping mall or grocery and put our ribbon on everyones car. I wonder if that would get me in trouble?
Could you imagine- taking like 100 of our ribbons and placing them on cars in a parking lot. Do you think people would get mad, or I wonder if it would raise awareness. Would people not knowing what CDH is, actually look it up? I am not going to do this of course, but I wonder how I would re-act? How would you re-act?
StephanieOlivarez
12-28-2007, 02:40 PM
I do the same thing.
I want to go to the shopping mall or grocery and put our ribbon on everyones car. I wonder if that would get me in trouble?
Could you imagine- taking like 100 of our ribbons and placing them on cars in a parking lot. Do you think people would get mad, or I wonder if it would raise awareness. Would people not knowing what CDH is, actually look it up? I am not going to do this of course, but I wonder how I would re-act? How would you re-act?
StephanieOlivarez
12-28-2007, 02:40 PM
I do the same thing.
I want to go to the shopping mall or grocery and put our ribbon on everyones car. I wonder if that would get me in trouble?
Could you imagine- taking like 100 of our ribbons and placing them on cars in a parking lot. Do you think people would get mad, or I wonder if it would raise awareness. Would people not knowing what CDH is, actually look it up? I am not going to do this of course, but I wonder how I would re-act? How would you re-act?
StephanieOlivarez
12-28-2007, 02:41 PM
I do the same thing.
I want to go to the shopping mall or grocery and put our ribbon on everyones car. I wonder if that would get me in trouble?
Could you imagine- taking like 100 of our ribbons and placing them on cars in a parking lot. Do you think people would get mad, or I wonder if it would raise awareness. Would people not knowing what CDH is, actually look it up? I am not going to do this of course, but I wonder how I would re-act? How would you re-act?
StephanieOlivarez
12-28-2007, 02:44 PM
I did not mean to post this 4 times- is there anyway of erasing three of them?
Sorry. My computer hasn't been itself.
LiseDill
01-12-2008, 10:30 PM
Well, after mark went out and spent 150 on an ipod ( you know, 40ish, midlife crisis) I decided it's time for me...credit card in hand I ordered my magnets...2 of em!
FINALLY!!!
( going to philosophy now to order lots of my favorite perfume!):-)
karahess
01-12-2008, 10:52 PM
Go, Lise, Go! You're going to love them!!
StephanieOlivarez
01-12-2008, 11:02 PM
Good for you Lise.
You will LOVE them!!!!
I would have sent you one girl!!!!! I told you I would!!!!
LiseDill
01-13-2008, 09:31 AM
Nah, I'm already posting a ton...you gotta get incentives for those new Indianans!!!!
You're so sweet...I hope your family is doing ok( as well as can be expected)
StephanieOlivarez
01-13-2008, 02:21 PM
Thanks Lise- we are doing good today.
Shane is on his way back from Texas. We have been doing all sorts of things with the girls to make them not think about Grandma Lupe.
We could not go to the funeral becasue of the different environment for Shelby. The girls had a hard time understanding that.
We have been buring a candle for Grandma Lupe everyday and it has helped.
Today is the wake for the little girls that drowned in the flood Tuesday. I will not be going for the simple fact I just cannot handle it. I sent a donation in lieu of flowers, that's is what the family requested.
It will be nice to have Daddy home. He called this morning and you can tell he is emotionally drained. It will do him good to get hugs and kisses from his girls.
LiseDill
01-13-2008, 02:55 PM
That's so hard..I was so close to my grandma. Remember Edith from Archie Bunker? My grandparents were edith and archie. She was a gem ...I loved her so much~spent summers by her.She was the glue...Once she died our family turned intoa really bad jerry Springer show :-)
StephanieOlivarez
01-13-2008, 03:09 PM
I think Shane is feeling that his side of the Olivarez family will all go there seperate ways. Like you said-she was the glue like your Grandmother.
Isn't it werid how something so upsetting destroys families and doesn't bring them closer.
I love it that your Grandparents were named Edith and Archie. That's classic.
Dawn Torrence Ireland
02-12-2008, 08:28 PM
The cutest magnet model ever! Mr. Aaron Hess....
http://www.cdhsupport.org/graphics/IMG_1803.JPG
StephanieOlivarez
02-12-2008, 08:58 PM
Kara-this is such a great picture of Aaron!!!
It makes me smile!!!
karahess
02-13-2008, 09:51 AM
Thanks! He's Mr. Model and ever since he was a baby, he poses for the camera. Mr. Adam is the total opposite and runs when he sees a camera.
KimberlySwitzer
05-02-2008, 09:12 AM
Can someone let me know where I can order some magnets?? I cant seem to find it anywhere!
Corin Nava
05-02-2008, 12:15 PM
Kim-you can find them here:
http://www.supportourribbons.com/m/160153
KimberlySwitzer
05-02-2008, 12:21 PM
thanks :)
Corin Nava
05-02-2008, 12:36 PM
No Prob, I'm hoping to order some myself soon :)
karahess
05-02-2008, 03:27 PM
In case anyone is wondering what size magnet we have on our van that is in the picture, it is the smaller one.
Corin Nava
05-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Kara-you always have the most unique avatar pictures :) I love it!
Bobbi Steiner
05-02-2008, 04:49 PM
Corin-
Love the new picture of Makayla. What a cutie pie!!!
Corin Nava
05-02-2008, 05:24 PM
Oh, Thanks Bobbi!
karahess
05-02-2008, 08:46 PM
Ha ha! I just changed my avatar again right before I read your message about my avatars! How funny. By george, I'm getting the hang of this. I always have my camera with me and take tons of pics.
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-02-2008, 09:32 PM
Just out of curiostiy do you all put your childs image in the ribbon you have purchased for your car. I like the idea, but am wondering if it is appropriate. Thanks for your opinions....
StephanieOlivarez
05-02-2008, 10:27 PM
I think you can only buy the ribbon with no picture. I think it would be a great idea to be able to put your childs picture on the car ribbons. I wonder if this company can do this? Dawn--we need your input here? lol
The ones we all have with our signatures, Barb does.
Her e-mail address is bwagner@cherubs-cdh.org she is on a cruise ship at the moment--but I know when she gets back--she would have no problem making one for you.
Dawn-are you going to have this company make the ribbon with just the clouds? I like to give you more work--don't I?
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-02-2008, 11:43 PM
Stephanie-
I went on the ribbon magnet website and there are options up top-shape, style, image, text. When you click on image it allows you to upload an image for your magnet for an extra $1.00. Has anyone done it and how has it come out.
Lynette
Corin Nava
05-03-2008, 02:30 AM
Lynette, I didn't realize that you could upload photos when ordering the car magnets. If you do that, please let me know how it comes out. You should submit Ethan's picture to Barb to get one online too! You could use that for the cards for donations if you wanted!
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-03-2008, 10:06 PM
Corin, nice idea about using the ribbon with Ethans name. How do you feel about your childs picture on your car? Is it strange?
Corin Nava
05-04-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't know, I think it would make it more personal which would be nice and maybe peek peoples interest a bit more than just seeing a typical awareness ribbon.... Can you add the text to it to say In Memory of.... ?
StephanieOlivarez
05-04-2008, 08:05 PM
WOW--I did not know that you could add your child's picture.
I am on my way to take a look and order some magnets with Shelby's picture on them.
Thanks So much for pointing this out.
Corin-I think you are right that it makes it more personal and would for sure peek people's interest.
Corin Nava
05-04-2008, 08:14 PM
My goal is to have one by the conference, but since I bought the T-shirts and onesies with the awareness ribbons, I am on spending restriction right now :) Have to hide the credit card from myself-lol
KimberlySwitzer
05-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Corin that website you gave me only ships to the US, is there anyother place to get them that will ship to Canada?
sarah.deskins
05-06-2008, 05:49 PM
I dont see where to vote on the pole, sorry
Corin Nava
05-06-2008, 05:55 PM
Sarah-the voting had ended. The one that ended up being decided on is the ribbon we are using :) You can find the magnets at http://www.supportourribbons.com/maker2_show.php?id=160153
Kim-I think thats the only website that has it... If you really want one now you can have it shipped to my house and I will ship it to you. If you want to do that just PM me so we can exchange addresses. If you don't want to do that, I will get an extra one when I finally do order them and send it out to you, although that could be a month or two-I'm on credit card restriction right now :)
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-07-2008, 09:54 PM
Anybody having trouble getting on the car magnet site. I haven't been able to get on in two days????
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Sorry, I was just able to get on..
Keith and LynetteMoloney
05-08-2008, 08:58 PM
I ordered my car magnets with Ethans picture on it. I wasn't able to add any text, I tried but it went right over the original text with cdh logo. I'll let you know how they come out.
Can anyone tell me how to get his pic in the ribbon and onto my signature.
DanielleGolding
05-08-2008, 09:14 PM
Hi Lynette,
I'm looking forward to hearing about your car magnet!
To get the ribbon on your signature you just need to email the legendary Barb. Send her a picture of Ethan and his dates and she will make up the ribbon for you so you can add it to you signature etc, Her email is
bwagner@cherubs-cdh.org
Keith and LynetteMoloney
12-18-2008, 10:49 PM
Hey all- I know I have been away from this site lately I peek in every once and a while. I was looking at the personalized ribbons and items we could purcahse from Cafe Press. There was a email up top to send your info and pic to, but it got kicked back to me. I emailed it to Barbara, but am not sure if that was the right thing to do. Any ideas. I would love to purchase items with Ethans personalized ribbon on it. Thanks
StephanieOlivarez
12-18-2008, 10:54 PM
If you emailed to Barb--you did it right.
I am talking with her right now and she is going to make ribbons this week-end.
Then you will be able to order Ethans personalized ribbon items from Cafepress.
Hope this helps.
I also hope everything is going well for your family.
Keith and LynetteMoloney
12-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Thanks Stephanie, I never had Barb make a ribbon for me in the past, so I wasn't sure. Thanks for getting back to me. All is going well, busy time of year, although I feel like I am always busy...
I just ordered shirts for all my boys, hubby included but I would like something with Ethans pic. on it. How does Cafe Press work, does Cherubs get a percentage of the order, I hope so....
StephanieOlivarez
12-18-2008, 11:32 PM
I understand feeling always busy!!!!!
CafePress does give a percentage back to CHERUBS. They have really great items.
Hope your Holidays are wonderful.
Keith and LynetteMoloney
12-18-2008, 11:43 PM
Thanks, yours too...
Dawn Torrence Ireland
06-26-2009, 02:42 PM
Bumping this up! :)